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August 26, 2004

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Andy King

He leads in runs scored, HR's, third in RBI's and so much more. He goes by the name of Albert Pujols. He and his team lead the NL Central by a million games. This guy can flat out hit the ball. He ranks 5 in all time slugging%. 2 time MVP runner and should be it this year.

Ras Bickle

Not to diminish Pujols' accomplishments, but if Bonds had Edmonds, Walker, Womack, Rolen, etc. backing him up, I don't think anyone denies that the Giants would win at least 115 games this year. Pujols is to Bonds what Karl Malone is to Michael Jordan: a great player with the misfortune of playing at the same time as the greatest player.

Zach

Bonds is hands down the best player right now. He is hands down the single most important player for his team.

By any measuring stick he is the MVP this year. I have not always thought he was the MVP in the years he has won (ie 2001) - but this year he is probably more of an MVP than any other year - The Giants might not even be able to keep up with the Expos with out him.

Jakob Scheffel

Albert Pujols is the best player in the MLB Barry is a cheating retard that takes staroids.

Pete Hatz

No way in hell. Adrian Beltre, no questions asked. Look at the numbers, 1st in HR, 3rd in Avg., Tied-1st in Rbis. Bonds can't touch those numbers. PLus Beltre has stepped up in bigger places for his team, and will continue to do so into the postseason. Grand Slam tonight puts them three up with six left. If the Giants do get in, teams will walk him in 9 of his 14 place appearances, and he won't do shit. Game over, series over, award: Mr. Beltre

spencer

If you think someone in the league other than Barry Bonds will win MVP in 2004, you're an idiot. The guys is proving to us that he is the GREATEST EVER. With winning 4 consecutive MVPs he is dominating baseball like no other. 232 BB and a .609 OBS are single season records that will NEVER be broken. Think about it.
Oh and by the way, Bonds hit 1 less HR than Pujols, and 3 less than Beltre, with 250 less at bats. take that

peter

If Bonds had as many official at-bats as Pujols or Beltre or Rolen, he would have hit at least 60 homers, probably 70. He gets about one decent pitch a game. Bonds is far and away the leader in on-base percentage (.609, a major league record), slugging average (.812) and ops (on-base percentage plus slugging average, 1.422, a major league record). He also set major league records in walks (232) and intentional walks (120). Beltre (9), Pujols (12) and Rolen (5) were walked intentionally a combined 26 times. Now, what are the managers and pitchers telling you? Duh, that Bonds is the NL MVP. The Giants had weak starting pitching, weak relievers, weak defense and a bunch of journeymen and yet still managed to win 91 games. So whoever says Bonds is not the NL MVP lacks the math gene, knows nothing about baseball and probably takes idiot pills for breakfast. If you want to make a fool of yourself, vote for Pujols or Beltre or Rolen. Bonds just had one of the greatest seasons in baseball history. A child of 10 could figure that out. Anyone arguing differently has an IQ in the 80 range, if that.

Argentris

Anyone who thinks that Barry Bonds doesn't deserve the NL MVP probably doesn't know anything about the game. Some say, "Pujols or Rolen." Don't get me wrong they both have fantastic numbers (Rolen .314 BA, 34 HR, 124 RBI; Pujols 46 HR, 123 RBI, .331 BA), but most of you are forgetting one thing. They play for the same team! You can't pitch around them. Even if teams do pitch around them, they still have to deal with a center fielder by the name of Jim Edmonds (who also has MVP type numbers 42 HR, 111 RBI, 101 BB, .301 BA). That cancels them out beacuse of the lineup. St. Louis has the best 3,4,5 hitters in MLB. Then we have Beltre, who was awesome this year for the boys in blue. Lets check out Barry and Adrian's stats head to head. We're not going to look at the obvious stats (BB's, Run's Scored, OPS, OBP, BA, SLG%, and fewest times struckout). That wouldn't be fair to anyone in either league becausehe leads the majors in all those except for BA and runs scored (he's 2nd in the majors). O.K. here we go, Beltre has 48 HR, 121 RBI, with a .334 BA. That's impressive, but Bonds has 45 HR, 101 RBI, with a .362 BA. Beltre has done that with 598 at-bats while Bonds only had 373. Pujols had 592. Edmomds had 498. Rolen had 500. If Bonds would've had that many chances, think of how many games the Giants would've won. This would be without a doubt the greatest season that anyone player had ever had.

R Tuttle

Bonds out bats any other player in the Majors and he has done it with 175 less at bats than anyone else. Just because ha is not press friendly is no reason not to give him what he has proven year after year he deserves ANOTHER NL MVP HONER

Fitz

Barry Bonds is an incredible offensive force, but we must remember that the name of the award is the most VALUABLE player. When considering offense, the player who has the most value is ultimately the player who produces the most runs – either by scoring the runs or be batting in the runs. After all, getting put on base doesn’t have any “value” if you don’t score runs. If Barry Bonds were ultimately the player with the most value, he would have scored more runs than Pujols considering that Bonds has a .612 on-base percentage. But Bonds hasn’t scored more runs that Pujols, and ultimately producing runs (through RBIs and Runs Scored) is where offensive value is found.

We have precedent for Pujols as MVP, but I'm sure the sports-writers will decide to ignore it and make up new imaginary rules. In 1998, the race for NL MVP was between Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa. Both men had very comparable statistics. Sammy Sosa had 158 RBI, while McGwire had 147. Sammy Sosa scored 134 runs, Mark McGwire scored 130 runs. Mark McGwire blasted 70 home runs, while Sammy Sosa hit 66 home runs. McGwire hit .299, Sosa hit .308. One notable difference, however, was that McGwire had 509 at bats, while Sosa had 643. The primary reason for this difference in the volume of at-bats was that McGwire was walked 162 times, which is 89 times more than Sammy Sosa. Sammy Sosa, essentially won for 2 reasons: First, the Cubs made the playoffs in 1998. Second, his statistics, regardless of his number of at-bats, were better than McGwire’s statistics. 2004 is not a perfect analogy for this year, but I also wouldn't say its far off.

Rich Aman

Barry Bonds is the best player, but is he the MVP for this year???????
Ask yourself: Did Bond's team win? Did they make the playoffs?
If they did not make the playoffs, it does not matter if they finished 2d, 3d, 4th.
Adrian Beltre is the MVP. The dodgers overachieved by winning the division, and would not have won anything without Beltre.

ricky

U guys must be crazy. First of all baseball is a team sport. One person can have an outstanding year and his team could still be horrible. If team records are so much to you fools then y not make one of the Cardinal pitchers the Cy Young winner.

RON

I READ MOST OF THE COMMENTS AND SOME OF YOU GUY ARE REAL IDIOTS. IF FOR WHATEVER REASON YOU THINK ANYONE OTHER THAN BONDS IS THE MVP YOU NEED A CHECK UP FROM THE NECK UP. OR MAYBE YOU SHOULD JUST PUT THE CRACK PIPE DOWN....

mike

I dont know how you can compare this years mvp race with that between McGwire and Sosa in'98. True, theyre numbers were comparable in almost every offensive category, but they both went to bat almost equal amounts! Statistically, Bonds' numbers match that with anyone- and please remember he did so with over 250 less at bats than Pujols or Beltre. Is on base percentage is astronomical, he broke his OWN record for walks, and has done so in the past 3 consecutive years. Ive seen some of the greatest forces play this game and i can tell you without a doubt that Bonds is by far the most intimidating player when he comes up to bat. Pitchers are scared deathly of him and is obvious in their cowardice form of pitching to him. I dont blame them, because Bonds is seeing every seamin the baseball when its thrown to him; his hand to eye coordination is something that Balco controversies cant even cloud. We are really lucky because we are watching something truly amazing; the greatest baseball player ever, offensively, just might be in his prime!

BARRY

THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT BARRY BONDS IS THE NL MVP. THIS MAY BE ONE OF THE GREATEST YEARS IN BASEBALL HISTORY, ALTHOUGH PUJOLS AND BELTRE HAD GREAT YEARS THEY ONLY COMPARE TO BONDS IN THE NORMAL HR,RBI,AND RUNS SCORED,THAT IS WITH BONDS HAVING ABOUT 200 LESS AT BATS. HIS BATTING AVG.,ON BASE PCT. AND SLUG PCT. ARE WAY HIGHER SO ONCE AGAIN THIS YEARS MVP IS BARRY BONDS.

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